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Marcy's avatar

Thank you. Enjoyed reading this. I don't think of myself as a Methodist or Wesleyan but just a Christian who want everything the Lord has for me. I have studied and walked with Him 50 years. I see a whole lot of people who love Jesus who believe the basic tenets of faith and yet disagree on whether the gifts of the Spirit are still valid. I have friends who totally believe in the election of the saints and predestination. I very much believe the power of God is very much every where doing amazing things. If I understand what you are saying, I agree with you that the hard line on predestination doesn't take into account His grace and mercy. I will not ever be the scholar you are, even if I try until now and going home, but I can say this with absolute certainly. It is a line taken from the TV series "The Chosen". Mary Magdalena was asked could she explain what had happened to her to free her from her bondage from the enemy’s lies. She said something like this. "I only know I used to be one way and now I am another and the difference in between was HIM". That is what I know deep down. After 50 years I have heard thousands of sermons, been involved in many ministries and hopefully learned more than most, but at the end of the day all I can say to anyone who asks is "All I know is I used to be one way and now I am different and what happened in between is Him.:

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Patrick J. Lonergan's avatar

Your brief explanation of why the reformed are wrong about predestination warned my heart. I probably wouldn’t have been quite so kind. If the final outcome of our eternal destiny has been decided (predestined) from eternity past, why then continue with the facade and drama of telling ourselves we have free will to choose?

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